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A Visit With Imogen

By Kay Holz
SAN FRANCISCO SUNDAY EXAMINER & CHRONICLE
1971

 

On a cool, foggy afternoon, I climbed the path to Imogen Cunningham's wooden cottage tucked in between trees and plants and flowers on Russian Hill to talk to her about her life. Herself. Not everything. Just what was important to her that day. I wondered how mellow she would be.

At eighty-eight, she has more than seventy years of photographic credits behind her, a five month Smithsonian exhibition of her work, permanent exhibits at New York's Museum of Modern Art and The City's Museum of Art, and a $10,000 Guggenheim Fellowship presented to her on her eighty-seventh birthday. She also has a number of other awards and recognitions (including being named as an Examiner Woman of the Year.)

I know of her bluntness, and had read her statement: "I remember I was very ill-tempered person. I'm much better behaved now, though maybe no one will believe it." So it was with a great deal of relief that I was welcomed by a warm, friendly woman who seemed delighted to see me.

As the afternoon wore on, she frequently turned the conversation to questions about me. She was a much interested in me as I was in her. Her conversation was full of fun, with generous elaborations on answers to my questions.

When I arrived, a black-bearded student dressed in a suit was leaving, and before I left, another student and his girlfriend arrived with a bouquet of daisies and sat quietly with respect as they waited their turn.

I began by asking Miss Cunningham what she thought of Women's Liberation. Hands clasped in her lap, she drew herself up straight in her chair, and said: "Well, Mrs. Freidan (Betty F., The Feminine Mystique) spoke at Mills College. I said to one of the faculty later that had I been out there and heard her two-hour tirade, I would have been pleased to give a rebuttal. I think she is going to injure anything that women are trying to do. I don't believe  in being so aggressive. She makes it her business to put in a lot of hate and that never gets anyone anywhere. She's off on the wrong track, but as far as the Women's Liberation is concerned, all of the women who are interested in it are not like that, I'm sure.

"I've never been treated unfairly, as a working woman, unless I've treated myself unfairly, which I often have by not charging enough for my services. But whenever I've worked for Vogue or Vanity Fair, they paid me per page just what they would have paid a man. If I've not been paid enough at times, it has been my own doing, because I'm not aggressive. I haven't made great demands for myself, and I waited a long time to get what I'm getting now.

"You know, I never had any trouble in my profession because I worked: I really worked. I think a lot of women make the mistake of playing on their beauty. I didn't happen to have it. So you see, if you're really born ugly, you really have to work. I don't think that beauty is the thing that counts at all. I feel that if you do your work and are interested in it, and not just playing up to get some reward for nothing . . . many girls start that way, you know. So many of them have no intention for real work. If they were interested in doing something, they wouldn't be this idle middle-aged woman that you see every day. They'd have something they had carried through their marriage. Beautiful women don't become interesting as they grow old, they become sad, really.

"I photographed an architect this morning whom I've apparently failed on for about three different times, and this time the failure will be because, in his eyes, the photograph makes him look older than he is. He doesn't, he looks exactly his age, and what he's been eating and drinking and smoking: It shows up, and the camera sees it.

"anyway, I asked him what his wife did, I knew she was a lady of leisure, and he said she has a very big garden and she interests herself in that. Well, if she interested herself intelligently in that she could be extremely busy, and productive. But she doesn't even grow her own seeds, she has it done."

I asked Miss Cunningham what had given her the most pain in the past year. She laughed and said: "Some of my rotten sitters who don't like themselves, and can't admit their age, and can't admit their looks."

She got up and handed me a cardboard announcement of an exhibit of her photographs in Oakland. It was a self-portrait of the artist, taking a picture of herself in a mirror propped up inside an abandoned store. The reflection through the window is that of Miss Cunningham and her camera. "That's me," she said. "I see my picture as through a dirty window in a dirty mirror.

"When I'm photographing, I don't enjoy anybody at the time. I suffer the whole time I'm doing it. Most people are shocked by their photographs. I now send the proofs by mail. When they get them they take the agony out of their souls before I see them. But when I see them seeing themselves, I am so pained. It's embarrassing, humiliating, destructive. I can't take it anymore, particularly the women."

I wondered if it had been a struggle for her financially. She said: "I never have lived without what I would call a struggle. I've always lived poor. Have you ever read that book by a man in the Peace Corps, Living Poor? It's a revealing book about what he didn't expect. I really feel I didn't expect very much.

"The other day, my granddaughter was talking about someone who was getting only $350 per month, and I said" 'You mean you make more than that:' and she said: 'Certainly!' I don't know what a person ought to get. All I know is I asked for so little from the Guggenheim, that they gave me two-thirds more than I asked for. My eldest son said: 'I think they know about inflation even if you don't.' I've always lived on very little. People have given me clothes. I don't want to buy a new dress every minute. Some women do. You know women aren't satisfied with their old clothes, and I keep mine forever. But I think there is something in not wanting everything, don't you?"

Miss Cunningham was thirty-two when she was married to Roi Partridge, an etcher who was teaching at Mills College: She had her three boys, including a set of twins, within two years. "I've never had regrets about anything. It may not have all been pleasant, but still I don't carry it around with me. I just accepted my life. I was in a good situation. From 1917 to 1921 when the children were very young, while I did it, I knew it was difficult, but I didn't think it was abnormal. I just thought that was the way it was, if you wanted to work you had to make certain sacrifices. You are not a socialite, you don't go out to lunch. Idle women always go out to lunch. That's the big thing. And that's how they get fat, too. Going out to lunch.

"I'm sure I had a very tough time managing my husband, children and my work. But I never went anywhere. Never. I never dragged my children around, because we didn't have a car. Times were very different then . . . .

"I don't feel that my work interfered with my marriage at all, because I was photographing professionally long before I met him. We were divorced after twenty years. I managed both my work and the home satisfactorily. If you ask him to this day if the service was good, he'd say yes. I never missed on doing the things to keep a house going. I did my work at home, and the Mills girls came to me. I went for two years, off and on, to Hollywood, but it was no interruption, they got along well at home.

"I had a hell of a life, but what of it? You can't expect things to be smooth and easy and beautiful all of the time. It just doesn't happen. Remember, when you marry, a man doesn't wait on you, he gives you the money to run the house, but you wait on him. Most men expect it, accept it, and think it's coming to them and they miss it if they don't get it. There are a lot of men who are tremendously cooperative about that, but you can't tell until you get into a marriage whether they are or not.

"But you are asking me these questions entirely too late. When the turmoil of life is over, you're not so liable to go on feeling unhappy about it. I'm in an elegant situation right now because I'm very good friends with all my sons (Gryffyd, architect; Padriac, geologist and Rondall Partridge, photographer), and their wives and children. They don't expect a lot out of me. I'm a poor grandmother. I got to see them and they come see me, and we go places together, but we don't make it an obligation kind of thing."

Miss Cunningham attended the University of Washington in 1903, where she majored in chemistry, and was a member of Pi Beta Phi sorority. She paid her own way by being her professor's secretary and by making slides for science courses. She had said previously that she had cherished learning, and thought it quite necessary at the time, but has changed her mind somewhat:

"University education is mental training," she said, "and is good if the students want to know what they are learning, but now people don't seem to want to know what they are learning. They think they are not learning things they think are suited to their way of life. Many people who get their A.B. degree, don't know what they want to do. They just don't know."

Miss Cunningham occasionally teaches photography at the San Francisco Art Institute. She said that the students there act as if they know precisely what they want to do. "If you give them harsh criticism, they say well, that's what I intended to do. I don't read the photograph the way they do. For instance, a good deal of their work seems to be a challenge to my sensitivity, that is, they want to shock me. One time there was a whole series of people wallowing on a bed, so the next time that subject came up I said I'm real good and tired of this . . . I said it is not a very pleasant depiction and I don't like it. They haven't brought it up again."

Miss Cunningham photographed nudes as early as the 1910s, but the intention then was more artistic than erotic. Triangles done in 1928, is a lovely soft-focused print of a nude showing shadows on an exquisite bosom. The relaxed stomach is the only roundness in the picture. Pregnant Woman, a study done in 1959 shows a young woman's exaggeratedly stretched stomach, huge with embryo, filling most of the frame.  Her wavy hair is long, reaching to the bottom of her swollen belly, closely resembling the hippies of today. At the very top of the picture, her mouth, barely included, has a hint of a smile on it.

I asked her if she had ever shown these photographs to her students. She replied: "They ask me, but I say no, you'll have to find them yourself. I'm not going to show my students anything, it looks as if I'm saying this is what I want you to do. I don't want them to try to please me by copying my work. They really don't do anything like I do. They do it much more carelessly. The thing I dislike about present day works is that it's a quick record, and it is careless. I can forgive a little sloppy technique. I don't adhere to technique being the main thing, but I can't forgive careless work."

Watching Miss Cunningham bustle around her house, hearing stories of her daily activities (the day before, she had walked several miles to complete some errands). I wondered at her energy level and its source. She said: "It's always age that bothers a woman, but not me. I know a lot of people 60 years old who behave older than I. I do rest and always have. Whenever I get jittery, I flop. I'm tired after class, but it's mainly the conflict, Talking to people of various ideas and opinions and trying to help them is an effort."

I asked her if she was tired then since we had been talking for awhile. She said encouragingly: "Oh no, this is my relaxation." She said that as far as health foods go in keeping her young, she was a strict vegetarian until her twins were born in 1917, but she is not the type of person who follows everything the health food faddies say. "I don't eat much meat or eggs now, but I drink lots of milk, and eat vegetables and fruit. But if you attribute anything to age, it is the parents you pick. My father died at ninety-eight without any organic disease. He never complained once in his whole life."

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Holz, Kay. "A Visit With Imogen," San Francisco Sunday Examiner & Chronicle:
     People section, (November 23, 1971), pp. 16-22.


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